Episode 13: KPop Demon Hunters!

Editor and writer Maria Bustillos, Diana Moskovitz, Investigations Editor/co-owner/resident cat lady & BTS fan at Defector, and today's guest of Flaming Hydra: cartoonist, zinester, teacher, sculptor, and illustrator Carmen Johns immerse us in the KPop Demon Hunters movie. And soundtrack! LOADED WITH SPOILERS: K-Pop power defeats shame and self-doubt! Pod producer: Joe MacLeod.

• LIGHTSTICKS by Diana Moskovitz — I fell into BTS fandom during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, when all the news was bad and I had plenty of time on my hands to learn what exactly was going on with this Korean boy band that people kept talking about. So I really did want to see the recent solo tour by BTS member j-hope; once again all the news is bad and, though I have less time on my hands these days, I still am desperate for a rush of joy wherever I can get it.
• Carmen Johns